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Season 4

Poems That Find Us

January 15, 2023January 14, 2023 Jessica

Season 4, Episode 11

We talk about how poems find us. Jessica shares the prose poem “Desiderata” and the story of how it found her. We explore the poem’s content and talk about how each sentence serves as a guidepost for life. Plus wonder, seeing something anew, and the importance of listening.

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